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 Posted - 29/02/2008 : 11:43:56 AM
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Who has tried the worcester noseband  Thinking of making another purchase for my ever increasing tack room, read up on this sounds good but don't know anyone who has used it  
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Millymops
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Posted - 29/02/2008 : 12:57:41 PM
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Sorry Dod never heard of it!  - let alone tried one ... sure someone on here would have though |
   
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Posted - 29/02/2008 : 1:09:12 PM
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The Worcester noseband was originally designed to give extra control through nose pressure. The top part looks like and is fitted in the same way as a cavesson, two centre straps come from the centre of the noseband like a flash but are stitched, these attach to the bit rings rather than go arround the jaw.
By keeping the bit high in the mouth the horse is discouraged from putting his tongue over.
It also limits the backward movement of the bit when rein pressure is applied - so while it is said to give extra control over strong horses, this may be because it lessens the pulling contest between rider and horse.
This can be a very strong device in the wrong hands, it requires a very soft touch on the reins and should only be used with caution by experienced riders.
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Posted - 29/02/2008 : 1:18:18 PM
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Thanks Vince have ordered it and will advise on how good or not it is It is for Ozzy the bronco mad horse may be a bit of a find |
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Posted - 29/02/2008 : 4:56:04 PM
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| Dod ??? you have only just 'done' your shopping !!!! |
   
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Posted - 29/02/2008 : 5:27:16 PM
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That was for Jazz this is Ozzy  |
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Posted - 29/02/2008 : 7:43:41 PM
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| oooohhhhh .. you should have said Luvvy !!!! (would have made more suggestions yesterday!!)) |
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Posted - 01/03/2008 : 02:09:28 AM
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Posted - 01/03/2008 : 09:37:13 AM
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| I have never considered the action of this noseband before but now it has come up the more I think about it the more I realise how strong it has the potential to be. Use it with a straight bit and it will give a little poll pressura and some nose pressure, encouraging the horse to drop its nose. Use it with a jointed bit and its a whole new nasty animal. Give a strong pull on the reins and the joint will close and hit the roof of the mouth hard as the bit is being held up to the top of the mouth by the straps from the cavesson. |
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Posted - 01/03/2008 : 6:27:00 PM
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Ahhghh, sounds horrible when you put it that way, Vince! To think I have seen these in the "bargain bin" at my local saddlery too! I'm sure Dody will be very thoughtful and careful if she buys one and uses it though But it is good of you to point the potential problems out to us all. Thanks Vince |
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Posted - 02/03/2008 : 02:04:33 AM
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| Make a naughty horse into a nasty one |
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| Conflicting arguments going on with this noseband What I have read is totally contrary to what you have said Vince will take a good look at it before I use it and check out the action he's in a straight bar mullen due to his mouth confirmation but the nose band is to keep the bit high in the mouth to settle his bronco attitude won't give details of the technique taught to me to stop the bronco incase gets misinterpreted but the high bit carriage in the mouth should resolve the issue, will keep an open mind and give you an update once I have used it and seen what he is like for anyone out there thinking of using it don't want to be patronising but I have a lot of experience with different riding techniques and many years of instruction under my belt so am very sympathetic to my horses and ride with a very light hand so if you are unsure don't try it |
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Posted - 02/03/2008 : 1:15:39 PM
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From what Vince said, Dody, it should only give a little pol pressure and some nose pressure in your bit because it isn't jointed I wouldn't worry about you using it for one moment  |
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I would be really interested in your experience DOD, I have never seen one in action and can only make assumtions on the way it is constructed. My only concern is using it with a jointed mouthpiece.
The single-jointed mouthpiece applies pressure to the tongue, lips, and bars. Due to the V-shape of the bit when the mouthpiece is contracted, it causes a "nutcracker" action, which has a pinching effect on the bars. It also causes the joint of the bit to project forward and push into the sensitive roof of the mouth, causing the horse to lift its head to get away from the pressure.
It seems to me if you lift the bit up in the mouth the pressure on the lips, tongue and bars would be less but the joint, being higher in the mouth, would still project forward and being closer to the roof of the mouth would hit with a smaller, less harsh pull on the reins so the rider would need a very much lighter touch on the reins. The horse will still try to lift its head to get away from the pressure on the roof of its mouth but you are adding pressure on its nose, because the bit is physically attached to the noseband, forcing the horse to drop its nose.
As I said before I think the Worcester noseband would be effective with a straight mouthpiece but would advise caution using it with a jointed mouthpiece. I appreciate you are talking about using it with a straight mouthpiece, I just wanted to make it clear to anyone considering using a jointed bit what the consequences might be.
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Posted - 02/03/2008 : 2:01:13 PM
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I'll let you know I'll try with two different bits mullen first as he is used to that then I'll try with a French link see what happens He isn't a forgiving horse so if he doesn't like it he'll let me know straight away  I've used a kineton quite a lot again a noseband in the wrong hands dangerous but I love this noseband have always had a good result but I lent it to a friend once and my god havoc doesn't discribe what happened  Thanks for the advice always happy to take it and pass it on |
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 11:39:02 AM
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| Don't think I will be trying that one then! |
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